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Beth - Oh goody, I love this topic, and my chance to weigh in. I also love that it originated on your Facebook page - great integration.

Fierce for me depends upon whether it comes as a held or contained presence: I'm fiercely committed to my business's success this year; or whether it has a push with it: he fiercely replied . . .

The first thing that came to mind for me was 'tough love' which is a combo of presence and only as much push as the situation requires.

Fierce has an undeniable element of fire in it, but whether that means anger, and whether or not that is contained or projected, for me creates the distinction between effective fierce and over the top anger.
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I embody fierceness, though I don't call it that. To be fierce without focus is like shooting bullets randomly. My strength is in my love, kindness, and assertiveness with focus. Fierce it may seem, but fierce it doesn't feel. It feels like love for myself and extension of that to others, as well as accepting love from others. I am tired of being the target of others fierceness, which to me feels like rage encapsulated in an ideal. Being strong and standing up for yourself is a wonderful privelege, but the moment it is abused, becoming the weapon against people who love and care about the "fierce" person, and reconciled as some percieved strength is when I decline the term "fierceness" to describe myself. I prefer to be strong, to be loving in that strength while standing up for myself, NOT hurling hurt at someone you love. I wonder what the term for this really is.

Words are so subjective. I think if "fierce" works for your client, or for anyone else, in terms of being fully oneself and claiming one's space in the world, by all means use it.

I think, however, that the word in general usage is not usually offered in a positive light.

To me, if someone is 'being fierce', without any qualification (for example, Judy qualifies the word when she calls it "quiet fierceness" -- and even then, it seems to convey a certain extreme intensity, or even passive aggression) means harsh, strong, over-the-top....which could be the reason your client may have gone a little too far and alienated some by his new way of being.

If what we're talking about is being fully authentic and speaking and acting completely in integrity, fierceness is not particularly necessary. Being uncompromisingly assertive never conveys "You Wanna Piece of Me?!," or "My way or the Highway."

When you know who you are and are fully self-expressed, posturing in any way to prove your "fierceness" or any other quality doesn't really come up as a consideration. You're just being yourself.

Hi Tshombe, thanks for your perspective! As you say, certain words resonate with some and not with others. "Fierce" is a word that never resonated with me until recently, because what usually came to mind was the tongue-in-cheek title I gave to this post w/"You wanna piece of me?!" - I saw it as snarky.

We are talking about being authentic and acting with integrity, and since becoming a full-time entrepreneur, I've found I need to step up my game - to be fiercely authentic, have fierce integrity, in the best sense of the word. There's no half-way. And it's funny... when I think of being fierce, even just THINK the word, my eyes change... how I see the world changes. Things seem sharper. I'm more connected. I feel a little more alive. It's not something I need to prove; it's an unflagging belief that I can do anything! :-)
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Isn't it amazing how a word can trigger so much conversation. I too love that you carried the Facebook conversation to your blog Beth.

One thing that the word brings to mind is how as a woman I often feel it's not appropriate to be fierce because when I'm fierce that makes me a bitch and a bitch is not OK in our society. How can we women be strong, fierce, have conviction, speak our minds and not be bitches? Is that just an internal sensor or is it still true we women have to walk a thin line between being fierce and being a ball buster. Ya know? I'd love other thoughts on that.
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Forgive me if as an etiquette consultant I shocked anyone with my perhaps not very polite words. Hard to find non-controversial words that negative things.
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Arden, I loved your comments! I don't think the word "bitch" has ever been used on my blog before, and I appreciate that you opened the gate ;-). Really, it's interesting how powerful words like "fierce" can rouse strong emotions. You bring up a great point about the stereotypes. Perhaps it looks different for women than men? Not because we have to be softer or more feminine to bow to societal expectations, but because we're just plain different! And my fierce is going to be different from yours. So what does it look and feel like for YOU? For me, being fierce is not about the other person (balls or not :-) ) ... it's about my personal energy and GOING FOR IT with my whole heart.
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Beth,

Wow, you really engaged us on Facebook with that question. So glad you carried the conversation over to your blog. (Perhaps that was intentional?) If so, you are really learning how too use social media. Good for you! : )

"Fierce" is a totally positive word for me. One of my favorite memoirs is called "Fierce Attachments." It's about the mother-daughter bond, but the word "fierce" in the title makes me think of how we defend and protect the ones we love, the same as we do with the ideas we love.

Great post here, Beth.
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Judy, I didn't post to FB with the intention of carrying it to a blog post, but I couldn't get the word out of my head, and I loved the discussion it provoked, so here we are! :-)

Yes, I think the way that title uses "fierce" is like a bridge between the totally negative definition and a more positive usage. When we're fierce with things, we have an intense commitment. And as entrepreneurs, we need to be fierce with our ideas... 110%!
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There is such sexiness to the word "fierce". It's passion, it's authenticity, it's not being afraid, it's strength.

The one place I immediately thought of where I feel fierce sometimes is at the gym. :) I feel strong and confident when I am there and when I feel fit. And it might be silly, but I love that I can do push-ups.

Everywhere else, "fierce" doesn't fit me so much. But I'd like it to! I think it has to do with, like Val said, finding the comfortable spot of being assertive while staying loving - or calm, or respectful, or professional, depending on the situation and relationship - without ever compromising saying what you really feel and asking for what you really want.

Thanks for bringing this word to my attention - I think I'm going to post it up on my inspiration corkboard - come to think of it, there have been times in negotiations where I've been fierce. Hmmm...looks like there might be a little bit of a lion in me. It's just got to come out more often. :)

Man, if I hadn't already started my Confident Introvert blog, I would totally have chosen fierce over confident! I like confident -- but fierce implies more energy and, to some extent, not exactly caring what others think of you. It's being true to yourself when surrounded by extroverts, not always easy to do.

Great post!
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You Rock Beth! Great post! Now get out there and be FIERCE! ;-)

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